How do you know you are an Arab? Is it because people kept repeating it to you? Since you live in the Aures region, wouldn't say you are more likely to be Berber (Chaoui) than Arab?
Yes it's "Maaza ou taret" and I'm 05 as you mentioned this is home speciality.
Since I've opened my eyes in this life, I was knowing I'm arab because I'm talking arabic. There is people in my region (just few kilometeres far from me) that are pure chaoui and their mothers only speak Chaouia. My guess is, if my mother doesnt understand Chaouia or Berber in general (and great part mothers in alggeria) this is meaning something to me that they are from another race. Unless we're illegitimates in your opintion to not say the other word.
I am muslim, first and foremost, then I am African, Chaouia, and Arabic, etc... As was said to me once, we are Arabic because of Islam. Should I defy history for giving me a rich culture and many identities? No...screw it! I am happy to be Algerian. No matter what race is prescribed on me. I don't have an identity problem, but I am happy to be all of it....even if it's just by language. So, all the Berbers need to realize that the segregation that they are trying to implement is like the procedure that was performed on the African Americans. If you feel that it is justified, then I think that you are pricks.
The idea of a race being supreme is retarded. We are all humans, and we all are the same. So, screw all this stupid talk about Algerians being berber, because people at this point are just trying to survive.
Yes Nardine you're right. What I want to tell Benaoui is that the race of arabs exists in algeria and he's all the time denying this fact. It's a good point when you said that we're arab because of Islam. Some people cannot understand that Arab is a culture rather than a race. And because 100 % of algerians are muslim -except bernaoui - we can say that arabic culture is what's ruling in algeria. I'm arab but I feel very close to chaoui in everything. I look like berbers rather than arabs of saudia of course .
Does it matter? Such issues become a scoop when people have too much time in their hand and become passive listenss and blind followers. If you take that route we will experience another Bosnia, North Africa style, like we just experienced one bloody Ruanda, North Africa Style.... Allah Yastar, I fear another Bentalha!!
now returnin' to the innitial subject; I am 1-Muslim, 2-Arabic, 3-Algerian, who lives in canada, and if I happen to find out tht I belong to some other group I'll be happy to add it to the list...
now I hav a question if u guys can help... are chaouine kabyles? cuz my cousins are kabyles but I never really knew wut the relation was?
nous sommes berberes puis arabes et surtout 100/100 moslim sunny et africain est fier de l`etre au diable saxons les usa les juif et et les reste une grosse pierrre est dans l`ocean
Pourquoi ne cessez-vous pas de vous servir de la religion a toutes les sauces ??? Ca devient une obsession grave et de plus en faisant cela vous banalisez le sacre !
Bon, pour repondre au sujet du post, moi je me sens africain premmierement de culture africano-occidentale !
Amar du souss a ecrit: ------------------------------------------------------- >> Bon, pour repondre au sujet du post, moi je me > sens africain premmierement de culture > africano-occidentale !
Pour les occidentaux tu est un bougn..ule ou un raton
en tout cas moi je suis d' accord avec ceux qui s identifient en tant que musulmans avant tout mais je n ai rien d arabe et geographiquement je suis bel et bien africain meme si je ne repond pas a la regle cheveux crepu , peau bazane lol.
Non moi je me considere comme appartenant a la Nation marocaine qui elle baigne dans l'aire civilisationelle arabe ou arabo-musulmane. Etant donne que le Maroc a des racines afriquaines je sens le substrat africain dans mes veines. Maisje pense que je suis plus arabe qu'africain.
nouveau sondage:que vous vous considerez:Arabe ou African...Pour ma part, je suis africaine,tunisienne et berbere,de culture arabe et je suis musulmane...C'est vrai que je suis fiere d'appartenir a cette belle Afrique ! ! !...
hmm je suis arabo-musulman ca c'est sur (de toute facon j'ai pas le choix) et puis je suis africain mais j'ai tendance a l'oublier. j'ai des amis gabonais qui me disent : mais pourquoi vous les tunisiens vous parlez de nous en disant "les africains?" je leur reponds : "bonne question, c'est un mauvais reflexe car on oublie qu'on fait partie de l'afrique mais plutot du maghreb, comme si le maghreb etait un autre continent. pour d'autre c'est l'europe". et puis en riant je lui dis "finalement tu sais quoi, dans 1 million d'annees grace (ou "a cause" (a vous de choisir)) a la tectonique des plaques, le continent africain va toucher l'afrique par la tunisie, et donc les tunisiens seront mi-europeens mi africains (comme la turquie est mi-europeenne mi-asiatique). mais n'ayez pas peur vous ne serez jamais europeens faute de vivre 1 million d'annees!
Stating that Algeria should be Berber is like Hitler stating that Germany should be Aryan...if you don't thinkt that that is racist, then I don't know what is. Final note. I am done with this topic. So, basically, go to hell!
Why in the hell is someone labelled as racist when he says he is not Arab?
Do you really know what Aryan is? Did anyone here say that berbers are a superior race? I haven't read it anywhere.
Arab is a race that is found only in the arabic peninsula and like it or not we are not arabs we have been "arabized" during "el futuhat el islamya". I don't speak kabyle and I don't speak chaoui, I only speak arabic but I'm not arab.
In Belgium the "wallons" speak French but they don't say we are French. In Quebec The "Quebecois" speak french but they don't say we're French. In Switzerland les "Suisses Romands" speak French, but they don't say we are French. As long as we are ashamed of who we really are and of our true identity, we can never be ourselves!
l'identite est l'appartenance officielle et geographique sont claire, africo- arabo - musulman. Mais, je pense qu'une bonne partie des gens oublie qu'ils sont africains comme tous les autres africains ( noirs ).
En faite, il y a le Sahara qui nous separe de nous amis africains subsahariens, et cette sahara, je croix est plus difficile a traverser que de traverser le mediterane.
well I consider myself moroccan first and moroccan last , certainly nor arab but arabised , and not african , well geographically yes , but african does not mean anything , it is not a race nor a religion, it is nothing ...Morocco is the north western corner of Africa and that's all
Somali citizen (hence African). My passport says Australian, but personally i don't feel "Australian", so Somali it definitely is.
At the end of the day though, you can never truly be considered an "American" or "Australian" or "British” until you are third generation-and this is by definition not public outlook (which is far harsher).
Ofcourse I'm an Arab. I can't talk for all somalis but I know my father and mother are an Arab and the only language we can communicate is Arabic. Being an Arab isn't a race is culture, Haretage, loyality and belonging. I'm very lucky and thankful to Allah that I belong to Arab nation.
I am so sorry because I didn’t classified myself as an Arab or an African, it is difficult question.
Regularly we believed and assumed as Nubian that we are AFRICAN. Aren’t we???
Defiantly I know as many people whom said that whenever our country is located in Africa so we are African, or due to belong to Muslims groups came from North Africa during 1st Islamic operation so we are Arabأ¢â‚¬آ¦ Anyway, I believe that I am Sudanese, African, Arabic, and overall I am Muslim. Therefore, I will let you classify me.
i can picture a somali knocking the gates of heaven, and some 1 yelling who goes there! plz state your race!!
no voice heard!! just silence!!...... what a shame...after all this world travel and educations, some of u r still confused..!
a smart person, might ask the mirror and dont argue with what it shows! amazing!! i guess the truth hurts! always, be proud of your hertiage and culture, otherwise, u be floating in thin air!!
I'd rather say Afro-arab; you cannot leave out one side and claim the other. Sub-saharans are in the African continant firstly. Our heritage has mixture of both, so is our blood.
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Je suis du maroc
du sud plus exactement
chez nous nous sommes Imazighen (berberes pour les europeens)
donc je ne peux pas repondre a la question arabe ou africain
car je ne suis pas Arabe
par contre je suis Africain ca c'est un ETAT DE FAIT que le plus stupide des
hommes n'oserait pas contredire
Je me considere algerien, african, jamais arabe et circoncis par dessus le marche
Africaine, plutot polyglote
Ana El 3arbi oueld el ghaba we l'gibel, oueld E Sahra we rimal
The others I dont know about them.
Lazzhar,
How do you know you are an Arab? Is it because people kept repeating it to you? Since you live in the Aures region, wouldn't say you are more likely to be Berber (Chaoui) than Arab?
Is it a case of "Maaza welaou taret"?
Yes it's "Maaza ou taret" and I'm 05 as you mentioned this is home speciality.
Since I've opened my eyes in this life, I was knowing I'm arab because I'm talking arabic. There is people in my region (just few kilometeres far from me) that are pure chaoui and their mothers only speak Chaouia.
My guess is, if my mother doesnt understand Chaouia or Berber in general (and great part mothers in alggeria) this is meaning something to me that they are from another race.
Unless we're illegitimates in your opintion to not say the other word.
I am muslim, first and foremost, then I am African, Chaouia, and Arabic, etc... As was said to me once, we are Arabic because of Islam. Should I defy history for giving me a rich culture and many identities? No...screw it! I am happy to be Algerian. No matter what race is prescribed on me. I don't have an identity problem, but I am happy to be all of it....even if it's just by language. So, all the Berbers need to realize that the segregation that they are trying to implement is like the procedure that was performed on the African Americans. If you feel that it is justified, then I think that you are pricks.
The idea of a race being supreme is retarded. We are all humans, and we all are the same. So, screw all this stupid talk about Algerians being berber, because people at this point are just trying to survive.
Yes Nardine you're right.
What I want to tell Benaoui is that the race of arabs exists in algeria and he's all the time denying this fact.
It's a good point when you said that we're arab because of Islam. Some people cannot understand that Arab is a culture rather than a race. And because 100 % of algerians are muslim -except bernaoui - we can say that arabic culture is what's ruling in algeria.
I'm arab but I feel very close to chaoui in everything. I look like berbers rather than arabs of saudia of course .
well, on est tous des africains
Does it matter? Such issues become a scoop when people have too much time in their hand and become passive listenss and blind followers. If you take that route we will experience another Bosnia, North Africa style, like we just experienced one bloody Ruanda, North Africa Style.... Allah Yastar, I fear another Bentalha!!
opposites attract each other :-P
now returnin' to the innitial subject; I am 1-Muslim, 2-Arabic, 3-Algerian, who lives in canada, and if I happen to find out tht I belong to some other group I'll be happy to add it to the list...
now I hav a question if u guys can help... are chaouine kabyles? cuz my cousins are kabyles but I never really knew wut the relation was?
Peace out!
Tous les Tunisien sont Africain sans nul doutes mais nous sommes Arabophones
nous sommes berberes puis arabes et surtout 100/100 moslim sunny et africain est fier de l`etre au diable saxons les usa les juif et et les reste une grosse pierrre est dans l`ocean
Musulman
Musulman, Africain, Arabe, humain descendant d'humains
N'oubliez pas nos freres africains (Mali,Niger)
Pourquoi ne cessez-vous pas de vous servir de la religion a toutes les sauces ???
Ca devient une obsession grave et de plus en faisant cela vous banalisez le sacre !
Bon, pour repondre au sujet du post, moi je me sens africain premmierement de culture africano-occidentale !
Amar du souss a ecrit:
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>> Bon, pour repondre au sujet du post, moi je me
> sens africain premmierement de culture
> africano-occidentale !
Pour les occidentaux tu est un bougn..ule ou un raton
ton site est africain a 100%, anglophone a 99,50%.
C'est dommange qu'il n'est pas multilingues.
fais un petit effort, ca marchera mieux.
ma reponse a ton enquete :
je suis marocain, arabe, africain, tiers-mondiste et universaliste.
Un Africain a 100 pour 100
Pour ma part la kestion ne veut rien dire car arabe et africain sont deux choses differentes.
Un arabe est soit africain soit asiatique ( s il vient du moyen orient par exemple).
en tout cas moi je suis d' accord avec ceux qui s identifient en tant que musulmans avant tout mais je n ai rien d arabe et geographiquement je suis bel et bien africain meme si je ne repond pas a la regle cheveux crepu , peau bazane lol.
Non moi je me considere comme appartenant a la Nation marocaine qui elle baigne dans l'aire civilisationelle arabe ou arabo-musulmane.
Etant donne que le Maroc a des racines afriquaines je sens le substrat africain dans mes veines. Maisje pense que je suis plus arabe qu'africain.
nouveau sondage:que vous vous considerez:Arabe ou African...Pour ma part, je suis africaine,tunisienne et berbere,de culture arabe et je suis musulmane...C'est vrai que je suis fiere d'appartenir a cette belle Afrique ! ! !...
Musulman , ARABE, Berbere et africain ya rabi lik el Hamd
Je suis arabe et africaine a la fois.
Ps: Certains tunisien(ne)s ont une origine arabe ou autre ...
(pas necessairement berbere)
hmm je suis arabo-musulman ca c'est sur (de toute facon j'ai pas le choix) et puis je suis africain mais j'ai tendance a l'oublier.
j'ai des amis gabonais qui me disent : mais pourquoi vous les tunisiens vous parlez de nous en disant "les africains?"
je leur reponds : "bonne question, c'est un mauvais reflexe car on oublie qu'on fait partie de l'afrique mais plutot du maghreb, comme si le maghreb etait un autre continent. pour d'autre c'est l'europe". et puis en riant je lui dis "finalement tu sais quoi, dans 1 million d'annees grace (ou "a cause" (a vous de choisir)) a la tectonique des plaques, le continent africain va toucher l'afrique par la tunisie, et donc les tunisiens seront mi-europeens mi africains (comme la turquie est mi-europeenne mi-asiatique).
mais n'ayez pas peur vous ne serez jamais europeens faute de vivre 1 million d'annees!
quote:
Stating that Algeria should be Berber is like Hitler stating that Germany should be Aryan...if you don't thinkt that that is racist, then I don't know what is. Final note. I am done with this topic. So, basically, go to hell!
Why in the hell is someone labelled as racist when he says he is not Arab?
Do you really know what Aryan is? Did anyone here say that berbers are a superior race? I haven't read it anywhere.
Arab is a race that is found only in the arabic peninsula and like it or not we are not arabs we have been "arabized" during "el futuhat el islamya".
I don't speak kabyle and I don't speak chaoui, I only speak arabic but I'm not arab.
In Belgium the "wallons" speak French but they don't say we are French.
In Quebec The "Quebecois" speak french but they don't say we're French.
In Switzerland les "Suisses Romands" speak French, but they don't say we are French.
As long as we are ashamed of who we really are and of our true identity, we can never be ourselves!
Musulmane, Arabe, Maghrebine, Berbere, Africaine
m'esta3rfa behom lkol
je ss comme lablebi au feminin Musulman , ARABE, Berbere et africain ya rabi lik el Hamd
l'identite est l'appartenance officielle et geographique sont claire, africo- arabo - musulman.
Mais, je pense qu'une bonne partie des gens oublie qu'ils sont africains comme tous les autres africains ( noirs ).
En faite, il y a le Sahara qui nous separe de nous amis africains subsahariens, et cette sahara, je croix est plus difficile a traverser que de traverser le mediterane.
well I consider myself moroccan first and moroccan last , certainly nor arab but arabised , and not african , well geographically yes , but african does not mean anything , it is not a race nor a religion, it is nothing ...Morocco is the north western corner of Africa and that's all
Actually, neither.
I classify myself as an American citizen.
Somali citizen (hence African). My passport says Australian, but personally i don't feel "Australian", so Somali it definitely is.
At the end of the day though, you can never truly be considered an "American" or "Australian" or "British” until you are third generation-and this is by definition not public outlook (which is far harsher).
Bottom line, be proud of your Somali status.
Ofcourse I'm an Arab. I can't talk for all somalis but I know my father and mother are an Arab and the only language we can communicate is Arabic. Being an Arab isn't a race is culture, Haretage, loyality and belonging. I'm very lucky and thankful to Allah that I belong to Arab nation.
Mariam
Am Muslim first then
2= Somali
3= Swedish cause born and breed in Sweden + the passport plays a role
4= Arab cause I feel somalis got more resemblence to the arabs like religion, music and culture.
5= African cause Somalia is situated in Africa
I am African to the fullest hands down babe..We dont look like Arabs, we might have the same religion but music and culture dude we differ
First, I consider myself, muslim - Somali/african than australian. I dont know where u guys get the Arab part from..
I am so sorry because I didn’t classified myself as an Arab or an African, it is difficult question.
Regularly we believed and assumed as Nubian that we are AFRICAN. Aren’t we???
Defiantly I know as many people whom said that whenever our country is located in Africa so we are African, or due to belong to Muslims groups came from North Africa during 1st Islamic operation so we are Arabأ¢â‚¬آ¦
Anyway, I believe that I am Sudanese, African, Arabic, and overall I am Muslim. Therefore, I will let you classify me.
i can picture a somali knocking the gates of heaven, and some 1 yelling who goes there! plz state your race!!
no voice heard!! just silence!!...... what a shame...after all this world travel and educations, some of u r still confused..!
a smart person, might ask the mirror and dont argue with what it shows! amazing!! i guess the truth hurts! always, be proud of your hertiage and culture, otherwise, u be floating in thin air!!
i am pround to be an african!! r u?
I'd rather say Afro-arab; you cannot leave out one side and claim the other. Sub-saharans are in the African continant firstly. Our heritage has mixture of both, so is our blood.
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